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Korst's testimony before the New York General Assembly in October of this year is, in our opinion, the defining example of pro-industry speech.

There will be no shortage opportunities for Rent to Own industry professionals to speak before state and federal legislators in the coming months and years regarding the unique nature, and legitimacy of the Rent to Own transaction.

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Based on evidence, there is a general lack of understanding of the RTO transaction by legislators on both sides of the political aisle. The best way to educate legislators is to meet with them face to face. The problem; What to say?

RTO Online believes the best way to learn is by watching an expert. As the nations top Rent to Own Company, Rent A Center is a leader in all major state and federal legislative efforts. Chris Korst, Rent A Center Vice President and General Counsel, has probably met with, and testified in front of, more legislators than any other person in the industry.

In October of this year, Korst testified before the New York General Assembly. The 160 page transcript of the hearing is, in our opinion, the defining example of pro-industry speech. RTO Online offers the transcript here, in its entirety, for training purposes. Note: This is a real-time, word for word  transcription of the testimony supplied by the New York Assembly. Please disregard grammatical errors.

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I think it would be helpful, once again, to remind you all and the committee for the record of what it is that we do in the rent-to-own business...
Industry and independently developed statistics have shown that just 20 to 25 percent of all transactions in our business result in the consumers are acquiring ownership...
Over 85 percent of our customers rent on a week to week basis and almost all pay in person in our stores. I think it's fair to say, as I did in Buffalo, those statistics are powerful evidence and real evidence of the fact that we are in the rental business first and foremost
It bears repeating here today, that statute was one of the very first rental purchase specific laws to be passed in the country and since that time, 46 states, the District of Columbia, the Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands and the territory of Guam have modeled legislation after what was done in New York here 20 years ago.
The areas of focus of the New York Rental Purchase Agreements Act are both, I guess you might describe it as procedural and substantive, procedural meaning in my parlance full and complete disclosure of all key financial terms, transparency if you will
As we've heard a couple weeks ago, from two customers who had had an unfortunate experiences with rental purchase companies out in the western part of state, what struck me as I listened to those stories, aside form the fact that it was a terrible thing to hear about and had have happened was that the law that was in place worked.
So, I think the lesson there is you know responsible merchants have an obligation to train and retrain and retrain again their employees so that those sorts of mistakes aren't made. But laws aren't written because nobody ever makes mistakes.
The first speaker refereed to the negative community impacts, that businesses that you’re looking at today and identified rent-to-own as one of those.
First of all, 49 percent of our stores nationwide are located in urban areas. I think the national -- the 2000 census data indicates that somewhere over 60 percent of all Americans live in Urban areas and yet only 49 percent of our stores are locate indeed Urban areas.
 it's simply not the case that we concentrate on urban areas. We concentrate on areas where our customers are who need and want our services.
With respect to the racial mix and that issue was brought up as well in terms of targeting, I can, again, only speak for rent a center, but I can you that our mix of customers is roughly, I shouldn't say roughly, is nearly identical to the overall US population mix in terms of race make up. So it's simply not the fact that a disproportionate number of our customers are African American, are Hispanics or any other minority.
you asked about an analysis that might have been done in 2001 by some entity in New York City. I can tell you that that entity was the Department of Consumer Affairs. I was involved in that and Rent-A-Center to that analysis,
to no one's surprise the department found our prices are higher than what the these products are available for in retail stores, but I think it's fair to say that first and foremost, we've never said that they aren't. I think we've been very forthright and transparent with respect to the our business and why it costs more
we price our goods not on the basis of that single customer who might rent and acquire ownership 12 months later and never pay late and never have any of the service issues and we have to price our goods and services based upon doing business with all of our customers and all of their experiences taken together as one.
what we do is so very different from retail that to make those comparisons between what we are for business services that for what you might be able to purchase those same products for from Best Buy, is really to compare apples to oranges
Best Buy certainly doesn't provide the opportunity to pay over time, unless you borrow money from either them or a credit card company, this in which case that costs you money. They don't provide the services that we do, they charge extra for the delivery and installation. And there are certainly no right to terminate the transactions
The final speaker or the speaker before me, I think mentioned three issues that, she asserted the rent to own companies are “notorious” for. The first was, our cash prices and how they relate to those same cash prices at retail, the second had to do repossessing without notice, and the third she stated, was misrepresenting used products as new.
the New York statute, as well as it does, is that it has a private right of action that not only provides minimum statutory penalties but it also provides for attorneys fees so there is an encouragement to the private bar to accept these cases and pursue them. So, it's before been a very effective tool for making rental purchase merchants, reasonable and responsible and treat their customers fairly, which is ultimately what we really strive to do.
we've partnered with state governments and municipalities in other states before and we would be delighted and honored to do so if that's an object that you would like to pursue going forward. And then finally, of course, as you all think about 2008, we would like to be partners with you in addressing whatever concerns may be raised and need to be discussed through legislative process.
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Q: CHAIRWOMAN PHEFFER: Thank you. As always, you certainly do put on a bright light on the industry in a very positive and just a couple of questions. You talked about, and I have your display, which is very clear which says that it's new or it's been previously rented on and on and it talks about the monthly price, the cash price, and the sold price. How do you establish the cash price again, would you tell us? And then let's say it talks a 23 month payment, what happens in I decide and everything works out and I want to end it in 12 months, how do you compute the cash price at that time?

A: MR. KORST: Madame Chairwoman, the first question is really answered by something that we've talked a little bit about in the past and that is, like most businesses I assume, we have an understanding of how much it costs us to be in this business.

I think over the last five years we've averaged about eight percent in net profits and I think if you check the record the S&P 500's Companies have over that same period averaged 11 and a half percent. So, I think we're well within the range of reason in terms of profitability

Maybe more informative than that long winded answer, though, is a comparison between what it costs in our business for a consumer as compared to retail, and I can tell you that, and again, I've said this before, we're completely transparent

The macroeconomics are if you think about the retail marketplace today it's dominated by these huge retailers. Best Buy I think I mentioned, sells more televisions on the day after Thanksgiving than we rent in an entire year. That's just a different scale.

In answer to your second question, if after 12 months on a 23 months transaction you wished to terminate the transaction and purchase the goods, then at that point, we would take the original cash price, and by the way this is all dictated by the statute, we would take the originally stated cash price and subtract from that one half of the total amount of rental payments that you made up to that point.

Q: CHAIRWOMAN PHEFFER: Thank you. The other one is why the other people won but now we know that. How come rent-to-own have such a bad rap then? I mean, you heard the testimony two weeks ago you hear the testimony now, we have the laws, is it the few smaller ones that take advantage and the enforcement is not there? Every one of the conversations today about predatory lending puts in rent-to-own as one of the evils on the low-income people of a community.

A: MR. KORST: I'm going to answer your question in a way they think is different than what you might expect, Assemblywoman. I think the real problem is that we all wish that families and individuals who don't have the same economic means and don't have the same credit scores as others wouldn't have to pay more for the transactions that they engage in, and our transaction is one that appeals to the customers who are in that group.

I don't know what to do about it, frankly, because if the options on the table are to consider enacting legislation that would treat this transaction in the same fashion as credit sales are treated and regulated in this state, then that decision would put this industry out of business and this option would no longer exist.

Calling us credit just simply means we're going to have to play by those roles and by the way, I think you all ought to take a step back and think about this, credit companies aren't doing business with many of the customers that we do business with because the laws don't permit the flexibility that they need in order to do that business with them.

the FTC wrote about this in 2000 in there Seminal Report on the rent-to-own industry, there is no barrier, there's no bar to a credit company opening up a store and lending money to make these purchases to the exact same customer we're serving and yet we can all look around and see that they're not there, right?

I'm no banker and I'm in the an economist, but I am somewhat keen observer of how the marketplaces work, and my suspicion is that banks weren't lending money before. In fact, to individuals with bad credit and little amounts of cash.

the demand is clearly there. The question and challenge I think, for you all and for folks who are in those industries and for folks like me who think about these issues a lot is, how do you balance the desire to make those transaction, though options available with sufficiently strong consumer protection that ensures that consumers who have the need are treated fairly by lenders who are responsible? And that's the challenge.

I think we've proven turning back to the rent-to-own piece and Rent-A-Center in particular, we've been in business here for 25 years and I being we've proven consistently that that we are driven by customer service. That this is a highly competitive industry, that we loose customers to our competitors all the time and that if we don't continue to enhance what we offer and how we offer T we're going to lose that customer

Q: CHAIRWOMAN PHEFFER: Yes. Well, it gave me -– there was one and I don’t – I remembered in Buffalo that the competition between the companies, there is one that’s much cheaper?

A: MR. KORST: Aaron’s Rents, which has come into the New York State markets, really I think over the last 4 or 5 years. They're a relative new comer and they're offering the same transaction as we do, but if you were to look at their total of payments, they’d probably be about 25 to 30 percent less than what customers could get the same goods for from us if acquiring ownership was there goal and they don't do any credit checks, they serve the exact same customers that we serve.

But again, the Federal Trade Commission, not known as a softie on consumer protection, observed some time ago that this I highly competitive business, all you need is a truck some furnisher and appliances and you can compete with Rent-A-Center

many of our customers have credit, it's just limited. And so they protect that credit for emergencies or back to school when they need clothing and books and so forth, and then others choose not to use credit. They'd rather -- maybe they've had some problems before and they don't want to get into the credit trap again if you will, so they use our transaction as a way of getting the things that they need, and yet not having to enter into a debt transaction.

It's also I think an economically thoughtful transaction and I'll give you one instance, an example of that. A family of 4 will spend more every week at the laundry mat than they would renting a full size washer and dryer from one our Rent-A-Center stores. Yet after 12 months they wouldn't own the Laundromat, they would own the washer and dryer that they had rented from us. And by the way, how different is the convenience factor?

Q: CHAIRMAN TOWNS: Thank you. Mr. Korst, who do You have to register with when you set up shop, is there a registration process in order to say we're Rent-A-Center and we're here, because --

A: MR. KORST: No. There are – I’m sorry, that’s an excellent point. There is no statewide licensing requirement. There are a number of city requirements including New York City

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A: MR. KORST: Mostly it’s about access. If you think about the examples that you just gave, you needed access to a variant on what you already have in your life, you have a car but you're in Florida and so you don't want to have to buy another car but you but you need access and there is Hertz who is willing to provide that. You need golf clubs, you’re out of town, and you don’t want to take your clubs on the plane, same option. Access is a little different for our customers.

 access to our customer is, I need this, I want this, and these companies are willing to do business with me even though I have bad credit and I don't have very much cash, you know, and there's the access. That's the switch that rental provides that other transactions just don't.

Q: ASSEMBLYWOMAN PEOPLES: Okay. I guess to a certain extent -- let me just ask you this. You only represent Rent-A-Center sure in the here representing all the rent-to-own industry, you're just representing Rent-A-Center.

A: MR. KORST: That is correct, although I should say that Rent-A-Center is a member of both the New York State Rental Leaders Association and as well as the National --

Q: ASSEMBLYWOMAN PEOPLES: I didn’t realized there was one of those and quite frankly I wonder whey they haven’t participated in this hearing?

A: MR. KORST: I think they left that up to me.

Q: ASSEMBLYWOMAN PEOPLES: So you are speaking for all the rent-to-own centers.

A: MR. KORST: I guess in a matter of speaking, I would be. I should also be clear, that association really has about, including all of our stores, only about two thirds of the total store count here in the state and so there's probably hundred stores that are owned and operated by business people who are not members of the association.

Q: ASSEMBLYWOMAN PEOPLES: Clarence New York. I really doubt that you have any in Clarence. I doubt that you have any -- these are very affluent suburban communities I don't think that you have them there.

A: MR. KORST: That's all right. If you wouldn't mind I would like to just point out one thing, that big screen televisions are less than 7 percent of our overall business. Beds, couches, for kids to sit and watch TV or do homework on, computers, so they can keep up in school, appliances, so that the food can stay hold cold and the clothes can be washed, that's the bulk of our business. Luxuries of the sort that -- I mean, it's a popular myth and it's easy to wave it and be critical of it, but at the end of the day, that's a very small part of our business, furthermore, if a customer under one of our transactions truly can't afford the product and it is a luxury of the sort that you've just described, they have the option to return that good at any time and have no further payment obligations.

MR. KORST: Good afternoon, Madame Chairwoman, Chairman Towns and Assemblywoman Peoples, thank you for the opportunity to, again, testify before this joint committee. My name is Chris Korst and I am Senior Vice President and General Counsel for Rent-A-Center Incorporated, we're based out down in Dallas Texas or the Dallas Texas area, I should say. (top)

I have prepared testimony and submitted that testimony to the committee for your consideration, but rather than go through that, I think it's largely and substantively the same as I testified to a couple of weeks ago when we were in Buffalo together. I would like to take the opportunity and maybe just touch on couple of highlights because those highlights, I think, will address a couple of the issues that have been raised today in regard to the rent-to-own or rental purchase transaction. Then in addition to that, go ahead and specifically address some questions and concerns that were raised and then I’d be glad to answer questions at that point. I will try to be brief. I have an airplane and I would rather catch it than end up staying over one more day. As much as I like New York City, I do need to get home some time. (top)

I think it would be helpful today would be helpful, once again, to remind you all and the committee for the record of what it is that we do in the rent-to-own business. Who our customers are and what our transactions are that so that the issues that you’ve heard raised today or that you may have concerns about can be considered and addressed in a proper legal and factual framework. Rent-to-own companies like Rent-A-Center offer name brand high quality durable goods furniture appliances, electronics and computers are our main product lines, for rent on a week-to-week or month-to-month basis. Customers are typically never obligated beyond the initial term to continue renting and in fact can return the rented product at any time without penalty and without further financial obligation. Our customers also have the option to continue renting after the initial rental or renewal period and can do so simply by paying an additional weekly or monthly rental payment in advance. (top)

They also, as you would guess, from the name of the transaction rent or purchase or rent to own have the option again without the obligation to acquire ownership of those goods. In addition to the property products themselves, we provide delivery and installation of those products in our customers homes as well as full service, including the provision of loaners or replacement items if we can't repair the original items in the customers homes. All of that we provide without additional charge beyond the basic rental charge that we have. And finally, we do not require any down payments or security deposits and we don't do credit checks on our customers as we don't consider their prior credit history in deciding whether or not to rent them. (top)

Industry and independently developed statistics have shown that just 20 to 25 percent of all transactions in our business result in the consumers are acquiring ownership. Slightly less than 70 percent of all of our transactions terminate with the property